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good afternoon so as you know i was awaiting this package from the pcb 
contractors in bangalore and it has arrived today a little sooner than 
i expected so i figured i'd unbox it on stream so
here's the box and its kind of heavy because its pretty much a solid 
fiberglass in there
and there's a sticker on here saying it was x rayed by dhl
and
i would like to find out
whether these people have like actually separated the boards because i 
was expecting that but they didn't do it last time and they did the 
previous time
i'm not sure i would pay extra to have them separated but it was you 
know its better if they're separated
instead of being just panels
not split
also i would like to find out whether the silkscreen was printed 
properly because there have been problems with that before
and i contacted customer service before placing this order
and
didn't really get
didn't really get a very satisfactory reply they said oh well here are 
our specifications follow the specifications it should print ok but 
that was the case last time so
we get some
styrofoam sheets in here
you don't see these very often anymore
and another lion circuits key ring with what looks like a
no usb only d thing on it i guess
i
yeah so i'm going to just try plugging it into my am
a laptop here and see if it lights up
it doesn't seem to want to deal with that later
okay
hello it glove equal love wherever that is
i
so here's a package of boards and they are separated
so that's interesting
i
get some of the styrofoam i don't really like this type of styrofoam but
whatever
cause i can't reuse it and its messy and
that kind of thing then you know whatever is
available in india i guess is what they'll use

there were also some irregularities
with paying for this
the thing is i i think this client circuits
i'm sure they're nice people but they are relatively new at this game 
and they haven't worked out that you've got to be able to take 
customers' money or else its no good so their online store doesn't 
really handle the case of having more than one
pcb design that you want to combine into a single order
and so the way it works is you have to select
shipping for just one of them and then write a note saying that
you want to combine them and then this time they said oh well okay so 
he can pay for it and then we'll tell you if you need to pay more 
because we don't know what the shipping will be until we pack it up and 
send it off right and i said well that's not really an
i need to know especially because their online store
sent me to some
really sketchy looking payment provider in the united arab emirates
didn't wouldn't have thought that there was a lot of commerce between 
the u a e and india but that was where their payment processor was and 
the payment processor rejected my card and then moments later my cell 
phone rings
notification from the card issuer saying we got this sketchy booking 
transaction from the u a e on your card is that really you so i have to 
text back why saying yesterday's read with me okay so here's the
first board
and i'm looking carefully at it for whether they left off of the 
silkscreen lines
and it looks pretty good
i don't see any missing lines
try to hold that up there the real issue with the other boards was when 
there was a silk screen that went over the edge right that should be 
clipped off at the edge but instead what was happening was the entire 
silk-screened line that crossed the edge
was removed
and that is the problem because i mean you wouldn't think the 
silkscreen cosmetically is very important cello pitch but it is when 
i'm selling kits because my customers have to be able to see
where to put everything in a test match pictures in the book and so on
so
in an effort to preempt that kind of issue
and there are some missing lines here
yeah
i don't think they're a big issue but it looks to me like they removed 
the dotted lines around these these square pads
on these great resistors that in the leapfrog they'd have a double
double pad i dunno how many of you have actually
tuned in now hour watching this later have actually built a leapfrog 
but there are resistors here where you have a choice of two pants to 
plug into and there should be a little dotted line around the whole 
thing and then the square pad is the one that you normally wanting a 
standard build until round one
is for a hypothetical alternate build which i've never actually defined 
yet anyway
so it looks to me like the pads when they are square the line comes 
close enough to it that the
contractors didn't print that line
not really a huge issue but not perfect so let's look at these other 
boards
these are bored ones these are bored three know the support threes the 
support ones
and there should be simple trees and care as well
smart board to board threes same issue with the silk and i see that the 
silk is not perfectly aligned its close enough i think but this is
i can't say its perfect
perfect quality work here
it is nice that they have milled the edges though that was something 
that was missing on my last order from these people
and the milled edges are not really necessary but makes it feel nicer 
to handle the boards which is worth something i guess
and as with the last order these sports have a little darker blue color 
as compared to the chinese manufacturer which i like the the the darker 
blue i think looks nicer
okay board tos here

yeah
i'm not seeing any real serious issues with the silkscreen
it is less perfect alignment and a little bit more smudgy than i 
consider really perfect but can still be read it readable i would 
certainly based on these boards that i'm looking at
i think i can say these are acceptable

okay
now let's see this says twenty two twenty two
there are numbers written on here which i guess i will have to confirm 
but
twenty two
twenty two twenty two
it looks to me like they've shipped me forty four of each of the three 
designs which is not exactly what i
ordered or paid for but
in may partly compensate for some of the extra charges that i ended up 
having to pay for this cause there was that extra shipping and then the 
usual payment to dh dhl for a brokerage i noticed the dhl
as usual miss declared the package but that's not really a huge issue 
because
i mean its not subject to duty its only subject to hst and
just looking here for a paper towel because i want to clean this 
workbench up a bit
only subject to hst and the hst will get refunded back to me anyway so 
if its not really the right amount big deal i'm just going to go grab 
a paper towel back in the sec




so i ordered forty each of two of the designs and thirty five of
the other one because i have a little more stock of one of the board 
designs so i'm trying to equalize the totals and if its really true 
that i got forty four of each
then
i don't get that benefit but
whatever its nice to have some extra the the way the extras come about 
is that
they don't make they don't run their machines just from me right they 
run the circuit board making machines on a great big panel like often 
as big as a square meter or even more and they combine
the orders from a number of small customers onto a single panel
so if they make forty for me they're really making forty of one of my 
designs and forty of another design and forty of somebody else's design 
and so forth and so on
and one of the sports come off the machine a lot of them are defective 
it might be like ten percent and testing them is expensive but that's 
part of the process that they're being paid to do so they have to test 
them and throw out the bad ones and only ship me the good ones
and if i ordered forty and they make you know forty two of them and 
then three are defective and they've only got thirty nine then that's a 
problem they're going to have to run their machine again just to fill 
in that one remaining for me so what they do is they and the and its 
even worse because there are multiple customers so if even one
customer can't get a full forty they're going to have to run the 
machine again
so what they do is they figure out how many defective sports they're 
expecting and they run enough multiples of those full large panel that 
they can be pretty sure they're going to have enough for every customer 
but that means that usually most customers they will actually make a 
few more than that
customer ordered that turned out good because read right there they 
they're trying to have a safety margin on it and make sure that even 
the worst served customers still gets as many as they ordered
and so then why do they do with the extras now if it were a bigger a 
bigger deal if they were making thousands of them then they would 
negotiate as part of the contract well we will agree to supply you with 
the number you ordered plus minus ten percent and then you pay for the 
number you actually get and so on but
with a small small deal like this they usually just throw the extra 
ones into the box and say hey you got a bonus
that is how the the chinese also usually work
so what it means is its pretty routine that i end up getting just a 
few more boards than i ordered
okay so these boards
i can count them offline and they go into inventory and that's great 
i'll be able to make more leapfrog for quite a while i have this
prototyping prague which i made in my earlier stream in particular on 
monday i still have not adjusted and calibrated it but i think that the 
blue and pink panel with the purple knobs came out looking pretty nice 
on this
that's great and maybe in some future era episode i'll actually hook it 
up and play with it a bit or one of the things that's on my
on my shopping list is i need another era another your rack case 
that'll be more portable so i can use it for little demos here and to
and maybe in person if the
if the world ever opens up again
i
other than that i don't have a lot else to say today
so i think i will say
i hope you enjoyed and have a nice day
hmm
yeah hm