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Do not cite it or take it too seriously; if people do, then I will take it offline. i hello so this is an unscheduled stream and i am going to be adding the dip sockets to these circuit ports that i worked on in previous streams this is a nice little sort of compact step in the assembly process so i think that it'll make a good thing to do in a non scheduled stream now for dip sockets i'm going to want to use a different to different tip on my soldering iron so i'll have to remember to swap that later but its really pretty pretty simple here palm stick them there in the board and then i'm going to want to kind of glue them in place temporarily with some of this bluetec also known as poster putty when i was a kid we used to call it fun tech because that was a particular brand so is bluetec for that matter i have had ongoing problems with the audio synchronization because i'm running two webcams here and in my voices on a separate microphone and as far as i can tell the amount of latency or delay the webcams is random every time i start up and so on that's interesting this is the wrong size of them dip socket there and it may be that that is and that's the extra one that i found in one of the spins in the previous stream so i'm just setting it aside here and i'll hope to find the place for that later yeah anyway i was talking about bluetec there are a number of different to different ways that people used to stick these these items into the board not sure if its actually raining out there right now or if this is in fact this is probably where this came from because i was missing the sixteen pin socket there we've had some snow and there's there was a fair bit of snow this morning but a lot of it seems to have melted off i don't really like these intermediate to intermediate temperature days but if its nasty enough to keep people from going out that may be a good thing in the current plague situation hello we've got a few more people in among the viewers nice to see all there pay she i don't know how to pronounce your name but you've tuned in a few times now our electrical longboard and let's do this music greetings on these backboard the smaller ones i've got a socket for tl o seven four maybe i should actually change that silk screen because i'm now shipping oh seven four bees and nyssa in the the kids and and even in the assembled modules and the sixteenth had sockets for the m one three seven hundred the oh seven four b is a general purpose op amp there for op amp units on the chip there and you know you're pretty pretty much apt to see op amps in any audio circuit and then the thirteen seven hundred is the so-called operational trance conductance amplifier which basically means its a lot like an op amp but it has an extra connection for the the internal current that its going to switch which means that it can have controllable gain so if you want to have a signal that controls the volume of an of another signal or anything like that you want to have something like that i she may have confused myself here look at two this is missing the chip sockets i probably got an extra one in one of these other games or maybe i'm running out entirely huh i mean it i just need to have the right number of sockets for the the boards i'm making and it doesn't matter which bins they come out of but i have to watch that yeah the the thirteen seven hundred is the last basically of the ot a chips that you can still get in through hole package there used to be the ca thirty eighty and the ca thirty eight twenty no thirty two eighty yeah and a few others and and all of those ca series integrated circuits are no longer made basically because they shut down the factory that that made them they were an ancient technology with them transistors in in their much bigger than then are used in more modern chips and it just was no longer pop profitable to too to keep them in production so at least he has his as through hole components and so all the audio people are kind of disappointed about that but what are you going to do a lot of audio design moved to the thirteen seven hundred chime using and since that's kind of the last one they're probably going to keep making it for a long time because there's now a solid market from all the people who used to be using the other chips there were some oddball ot a chips that were like single in-line package so they would plug in like a resistor pack without without having to go on both sides like that yeah now here here i had two two sockets in the bin that only was supposed to have one so i think what happened was i was just made a mistake while i was filling the spins i may have actually swapped them all with two sockets and the one i had been in one socket in the two second seconds throughout or it may have been that i wasn't keeping track of which bin was which and i got the right number of sockets but sort of randomly arranged doesn't really matter though because well ok it doesn't matter as long as i'm the one building the the assembled modules if i were to ship the wrong number of sockets in the kit that goes to a kit customer that would be bad but its not so likely because as you may recall when i was doing those in one of my other unscheduled streams i when i ship the sockets they go into a little foam holder thing and its really easy to see whether there are the right number and really hard to miss getting the right number so that's not a mistake i expect to make one pack packing kits okay these sockets are not exactly polarized they do have a right and a wrong end and the end is marked with a notch as to i i try to make it match up with the and that's marked in with a notch in the silkscreen there on the board if i were to get one in backwards and actually solder it in i think i would not fix it though because the electrical connections aren't the same at both ends so just as long as the chip that gets plugged into it is plugged in right way round i'm okay and the the notch on the on the actual socket is basically just there as a clue to how to correctly plug in the pin the of the actual i see and it looks to me like there were just a couple of those bins that had swapped them socket counts because at the end of this exercise here i am with the last board and i do have neither too many nor too few eye sockets right number and the right count of the two different kinds there's a sixteen and a fourteen there so i think i just got a couple of swapped around or i remember there was one that i that fell out of a bin and i may have put it back in the wrong bin but it all adds up correctly at this point now i'm gonna want to solder these for the dips i like to use a and i don't know if i just gave you a heart attack here grabbing the end of the iron but this is not is not heated up yet i otherwise you know i'd be enjoying the smell of crispy bacon at this point but i'm swapping in the wider tip that makes it a little easier to to soldering the dips because i can kind of zoom along the end there trying to get the angle just right before i start this heating up because of course once it is heated i'll be a little less cavalier about them about twisting it with my fingers alright so that's that's installed in our reach over here probably out of the frame to plug it in okay i want to get that warming immediately cause it'll take a couple of minutes of course now i'm coming back up here with my microphone so you should still be able to hear me and turning on the exhaust fan and that's green alright like i say i should probably give it two minutes or so to to heat up take a look in chat here i still have not figured out how to get twitch to tell me who is connecting and chat hello s r baker and the only mrs baker i just warming up the soldering iron here getting ready to do these these dip sockets i like to i like to put the installer components on the board more or less in order of increasing height so i did the resistors and the diodes and so on before and now i'm doing the dip sockets which are a little higher up its also a little i have to plan a little bit because i'm using the wider tip on the iron and after that i'm going to have another round where i add stuff like the radio lead capacitors that stick up a fair bit and then find owens the exponential cluster around here videos casted i dunno i mean i would hope that i have and the question is are is it throwing the numbers off to have to i'm getting on in more than one place but okay well i hope mrs baker is watching and listening in the car i hope that you are doing more listening than watching but the the fancy modern cars drive themselves anyway yeah then i'm probably also going to have to switch back and forth again between tips to get these these panel components in because they need they need the wider tip now by this point just going to test it here i may be starting to be warm enough now grab some cider and try try melting it here yep the soldering iron is warmed up so i can actually start start doing these i sat down there i think i'm probably going to have enough flux just built into the side here if not i may have to actually add some more yeah that looks like that'll be fine maybe so i can just zoom along i'm making lots of connections fast here with the white tip that's one reason its nice to to have it seven on that side and a few more on this side and its probably probably not safe to try to do that all with this little chunk of cider so on cut some are how is this doing this is yeah maybe that settling it wasn't quite warm enough yet but i'll hit those connections again in a moment make sure that they got fully liquified as well as a couple that are off to the side here which or from the previous session and still local little blobby eric that's that one done i think and it will get easier as i move onto the these other boards because my soldering iron is now a little hotter when than when i first started i had been aiming for two minutes of heat up time and that may not have been quite enough although its very convenient to some sort of slide the iron in the cider along why are you using lead based solder i'm not using lead based solder this is lead free solder there was a whole big thing about that in one of my earlier streams i basically have to use lead free not just for the polar bears but because of the european union directive on reduction of hazardous substances this solder is i looked it up i wasn't certain of the composition last time i talked about this but it is ninety six percent tin and something like three point two percent silver and about zero point six zero point seven percent copper although the copper percentage is a little tricky because there's copper on the boards even under the gold and when you solder it a little bit of that dissolves and changes the composition of the solder now i don't know that people are still doing a whole lot of wave soldering which is the way that they used to do the robotic assembly of the olds through hold boards but with wave soldering you have a whole bath of solder and then you do of not quite dip it but you sort of move the board over a wave in in the flowing solder and the result of that is that overtime your solder beth absorbs more and more copper from the board so you have to i don't know if they actually measure or analyze it to figure out where its at but sometimes you have to add makeup amounts of different to metals in order to keep it at the proper percentage because apparently this sn ninety six solder after percentage has to be relatively precise i mean i say ninety six three one loosely but that's rounding it off the exact amount has to be within like a narrow band of zero point three eight one up to zero point five six two you know those are not the exact numbers but its its something like that it has to be small frac within a small fraction of a percent of the right amount or else the cider doesn't work the way its supposed to but yeah i'm trying pretty hard on the environmental aspects here both be cause i want to be doing a good job for for the world but also because i don't really want to get in trouble i have enough trouble with german customs in particular anyway without them being able to raise any legitimate complaints about reduction of hazardous substances but there was a fairly well received series of weblog articles i wrote about the environmental consequences of the kind of electronics production i'm doing so those who haven't already seen my website can enjoy looking at that honestly though part of it is just simply my interest in chemistry i probably go further into that stuff than i need to just because i find the questions interesting and even if someone says oh well i wouldn't do anything electronic that's horrible for the world will stick to acoustic instruments only that can be somewhat illusory because your traditional acoustic instruments very often are made out of endangered wood and even today guitar companies get into trouble for having wood in their warehouses that is not the kind that its supposed to be and was taken from an ancient forest that is not replenished and whatever else i read an interesting er actually i think i heard about this on the radio and quirks and quirks on the cbc radio now a number of years ago but someone had studied how to make a bowl for liking are a violin or other orchestral string instrument and these are traditionally made out of pernambuco i would which is endangered and only grows in places that you're not supposed to disturb and so on and they found that they were able to make a bow that worked just as well with cheap pvc pipe from a hardware store so they were trying to convince musicians that that was a you know they did the blind test the ab comparison you listen to music played with one bow and let music played with the other bow and decide which one you prefer and then you'd get very angry when it turns out that that was the cheap pvc bow that was the one that sounded better so they were trying to convince musicians to switch and not having a whole lot of success i think what it'll take is coming up with something that both objectively sounds better and seems just as cool and artistic because nobody wants to say that our fancy classical music was recorded on the cheap pvc bow from the hardware store but if you can somehow make it be that you know artisanal plastic right come up with some way that that you can make that scene artistic that's what it'll take that's kind of what i'm trying to do here with the electronic sign i'm making a small batch artisanal electronics that someone can credibly say is artistic and also electronic i dunno it may be unwise for me to try to do these without added extra flux trouble is that's a pain to clean but some of these connections are not really coming out really well yeah i'm going to go ahead and get the flux pen here see if that makes a difference and the solder i use looks like a wire but its really sort of a tube and then down the center of it is the the flux that helps the solder stick but if that turns out not to be enough i have basically the same flux inside this felt pen so i can just smear on some extra yeah i think that was the right call having some more those connections look better i hope i will fight with it less i mean getting to look good is somewhat important not only because it looks better but also because then they're more likely to be correct blobby looking connection i was often actually a bad connection maybe it would help to clean the tip a little more often too alright of course it doesn't help that on this this sport here in particular with the goatee a chip on it there are a lot of those connections on these dips that are actually connections to the ground plane so when i'm trying to heat up the connection i'm really also in effect trying to heat up a whole chunk of foil on the board that forms that ground plane and that's one reason for using the the wider chip on the soldering iron its its a lot heavier it has more more thermal mass it doesn't cool down as much as its heating the board so it heats it dumps more heat into the connection all at once a big part of the thing of soldering is trying to get the right amount of heat in the right places you want to get it in fast enough that it doesn't spread to other parts of the component where it could damage things but you don't want to heat the solder too hot or it won't stick very well and so forth and so on i don't know if anyone is actually looking at my lips as i speak but i have constantly had issues with trying to get to the the synchronization to work before starting the stream this afternoon i i actually ran like five or six tests where i clap my hands and watch that in the actually going to recording right i run the recording for a few seconds clap and then go through it frame by frame and figure out how much ahead of or behind the the video is the audio and then adjust the delays and there are funny little gotchas like ob es as delay filter won't let me add more than half a second of delay too a camera which you know if there's a half second delay that's a lot but sometimes it seems like i need more than that there's got to be a better way i i suppose that one better way would be to use half decent microphones built into the camera and and then use the camera zone synchronization so that the computers getting a stream of both audio and video at once but i think only the fancier cameras can do that with an external mic and none of them has a good built in mic or i suppose another thing i could do would be just make sure that my lips are not visible i think that's what most streamers do i could wear my coven mask on while i'm working here or i guess i could wear a respirator and protect myself even more from the solder fumes just truck behind my hand here but i also wonder like on the youtube videos i sometimes watch where they have drone footage and to multiple cameras were going around and you know all kinds of different things the general concept of how to do the synchronization really support it it surprises me that they managed to get it as well as they do i suppose the big name youtubers have people for that but it can't be easy we're nearly at the point where just every camera could have its own gps receiver and they could all put accurate time code on everything but i don't think we're at that point yet and even if we were we would have no doubt other issues actually using it that's good i'd say no issue with the sync that's good i don't know if that's because i actually got the sink right or if it just doesn't matter but clicking around in the twitch interface trying to learn how everything works i saw that there's a a button for reporting issues and one of the issues you can report i mean one of the issues you can report is poor audio video sync and i don't know why twitch even wants to collect that data because its not going to be twitches fault usually i think usually if you see poor audio video sync that's that's in the feed coming up from the streamer i guess we could imagine that twitch could have so much good ai as to be able to fix it by detecting when the video looks like it has something that needs sink in it or maybe its just the common video sources have audio and video synced anyway and they don't expect it to be dad but that's hard to believe because of the kind of thing i'm doing is pretty common and if you're doing a screen capture from a game you know twitch really really seems to think that everybody is playing games if you have video capture from the game and audio from a microphone there's those are two separate devices there's no reason to expect them to be synced well and the kinds of software and other setups that people use i know are basically a dog's breakfast and used by users who need everything to be done automatically for them so as i've said before its amazing that all this computer stuff works at all okay that is all of the dip sockets soldered now i'm going to go back and visually inspect these because i'm not really confident about some of the first ones i did when it was getting blobby before i started using the flex pen on them and i want to make sure that there are no solder bridges in here because as with many other endeavors the sooner i can catch an error the better really i'm just going back and hitting hitting points that don't look quite nice even though i'm sure that they're still decent some decent connections because better than safe than sorry and it is always nice to be able to especially given i'm selling these give people things that look nice although these particular connections you would have to disassemble the whole module to to find them so i'm not too worried about a customer who takes the module completely apart and then says oh it doesn't look nice because then i can say no warranty no warranty you you disassembled it although of course in practice i can't really get away with that its just too much solder a couple of connections here which means i have to reheat carefully in order to pull some of it onto the until the tip of the iron i think i'm going to actually hit that with them with braid haven't given an audio sink any for thought fortunately yeah well i don't know what microphone you're using you recently as our baker upgraded to two like a usb mic right so presumably that is separate from your camera it may be a question i think it probably doesn't help that i'm using two cameras because i'm pushing a little that much closer to the capacity of the usb bus in terms of bit rate i already was screwed over with that with the frame rate issue because it turns out that if you set the color model to the default oh bs thinks that means you want to use uncompressed video down from the camera to the computer and the usb doesn't run a full resolution and frame rate at uncompressed that's just too many bits to push down the pipe even for one cameras worse when you have to so you need to do some compression on the camera and the cameras will do that even the the cheapie ones i have gp and more importantly out of date but in order to get that to happen at least what i had to do was tell obey us that i wanted some other color model and then it'll say oh that means you have to use compression strange setup and as i say its amazing it works at all and its amazing that untrained users managed to use it but both those things happen these connections are actually not so bad after all they were annoying when i was working on them before but and i am going in and reheating just to make them look nicer but they weren't really very bad this one there though is not i don't think actually a connection that's poking out its that the actual wires too long so i just cut it a little short so that's all the soldering and now i'm going to unplug the iron and maybe even give it just a little dab of extra solder there because it'll be a while before i use that tip again and i wanted to cause i was talking about it previously i wanted to be the solder that oxidizes and not the tip surface itself better to store it with a blob of solder on it and it looks like about half of that roll of that chunk of solder that i pulled was used in there so that gives you some idea of how much cider consumption there is and now i get to remove all this bluetec and discover whether i in fact got any of those dip sockets in backwards because its basically too late to fix that now best way to remove bluetec is to rub it with a bigger piece of bluetec because it sticks to itself most of all but especially when its been heated sometimes there'll be little little bits of it left on the board it doesn't come off cleanly and i mean its basically harmless to leave it in place but to it not the whole blob but the little little bits and pieces but i try to remove it it doesn't really dissolve and the cleaning solvent so if if its on there its in the the final assembly its on there for good and it doesn't look quite as nice so i try to make sure its all cleaned off its coming up on three pm here and i had a u p s pickup that was supposed to happen between noon and four so at about twelve thirty i went and looked and i saw that the package was no longer there and i checked the pickup status on the website and it still said we have dispatched the driver and we will pick up your item on the schedule so i hope that that just means that they picked it up and the driver didn't press the button to tell the computer that that had happened otherwise sometime between noon and four i'll get someone buzzing my apartment door saying hey where's the package but given that its now almost three and that hasn't happened i hope that that means that what really was you ps who picked up the package of course its also possible that they go and there's no package and then they just go away disappointed because that has happened before it seems like the level of conscientiousness is different every time and last time which was actually a week ago today that i had a package that they were supposed to pick up and that one was a fairly substantial package or if a couple of grand i they picked it up on schedule and they updated the pickup status saying that the pickup had happened correctly but they never then never updated the tracking for two days so for a long time it was still saying we are waiting for the package we are waiting for the package then two days after it was picked up they said oh we have picked up the package i dunno what my customer thought i actually ended up emailing the customer to say hey it has been picked up even though tracking says not and that package was delivered in in brighton uk today its probably even brightened by now but no and another thing that really that i worry about even though i probably shouldn't because now i'm very conscientious about this sort of thing to begin with is what what if it arrives and the customer opens they didn't its not the thing that they thought they ordered especially when they've already paid me a substantial bank transfer for that package but that has never happened so far as i know i've always shipped people the right actual item okay so next time i'm going to want to watch these now looking at them after washing them last time i saw that there were a few a few places where i hadn't even gotten all the flux off just needed more scrubbing so i'll try to do that a little better this time but that's one reason i go through multiple cycles of of washing it so a bid for the washed ones and have been for doing the washing and i like to put my tape roll under here to tilt this up a bit and and here is some used solvent which i think i can use just this once more one more time and i'm going to have to also get some fresh solvent which means taking off my mic and so to spare you that i am going to put up the slideshow for like one minute or so while i go grab another box and and and okay i finished the other bottle yesterday or actually i didn't quite finish it but i added a little water to it to make it better for use as a disinfectant because seventy percent iso propyl alcohol apparently is much better at killing bacteria and viruses than than ninety nine percent i use for washing but that has then rendered that bottle unfit for use for washing because it'll take much longer to evaporate which actually is why its a better disinfectant with the water because you want it to be on there longer and yeah so that or openness after having taken the trip to go get it and talking about it and actually put some water in there even though i've got a fair bit of volume here from the old stuff it would not normally make sense to buy it in half liter bottles like this but what with one thing and another the five liter jugs that i would usually buy are not so easy to get and i actually was able to get a good price on a bunch of these half leaders so that's what i'm doing yeah now with the dip sockets on here i think the dip sockets theoretically are washable but i don't want to wash them because there is a problem i talked about last time of getting kind of a varnish in there that forms especially with the non fresh wash liquid that i'm using so i'm going to just hold the board above here and to try to only wash on the solder side of it but it does need a fair bit of brushing especially because i added all that extra flux i have to get both want washing i mean as the as the solvent soaks into the flux it forms a sort of a goo it doesn't just completely dissolve so i have to mechanically remove it by brushing and also have some flow across the board that'll carry the the goo down into the into vulcan liquid and that is what makes this liquid wear out or become become contaminated so i can't to just keep using it forever i suppose the best the best thing to do would be to build a still and rita steal it once it gets once it gets murky and then i then i could reuse the solvent as such i'd probably also have to have some way of removing water because it will on a humid day there will be water that actually condenses into it makes it less pure today and its being winter i don't think that's a big big factor the two dispose of the the used solvent once i can no longer use it i just let it evaporate through the exhaust fan if that were a really big quantity it would be an environmental problem but for small amount like this i don't think it is i mean you know if i painted a room with oil based paint i'd be putting much more and much nastier vapors into the air and this stuff will biodegrade in the environment pretty fast its not like its going to be poisoning the walruses for years to come the solder flux i use is called no clean and its supposed to be the case that you can leave it on the board and it'll just be ok but people complain if you leave flux on the board they say oh this was sloppily made i think just like with the dull connections that's that's the results of sort of the baked in racial memory of earlier days because back in the day when solder used to be done with the more traditional rods and flux that tend to be removed people got accustomed to saying oh yeah its bad if there's flux on it i'm going to nip off this little bit here even though its not really causing a problem just to avoid issues in the future yeah people became accustomed to saying oh yeah there there should not be any visible flux on the board and also i mean it is true with it looks a lot nicer you have this gleaming gleaming pattern of connections against the blue board and there is something to be said for the idea especially for something that is a musical instrument that it should be pretty its not clear where the boundary is between the artistic merit and the utilitarian function for a device like the ones i'm building here three although i try to remove as much flux as possible at each stage because this is going to go through at least two more cycles i have soldering and washing it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect every time i mean i did first saw the flat flat against the board components then an idea these dips then i'm going to do the other components that stick up a bit more such as the trim pots and these capacitors and inductors and then finally there will be one stage where i do the sort of big stuff the board to board connectors and on the other board on this board the the panel jackson to the parts that to control that that go with the control knobs and i arrange those stages of soldering and washing so that at each one is when i want to swap my soldering iron tips so that i'm not having to swap back and forth a whole lot but it has taken me a certain amount of time and a certain number of builds to actually figure out what's the best sequence and the best sequence might not even be exactly the same for a kit builder who was building just one of them so in the instruction manuals i try to include notes on here's the stuff that you must do in a particular sequence here's the stuff with it it doesn't matter so much here's the sequence that works for me that kind of thing i try to make it as easy as possible for for people and i think i'm pretty successful at that i do get a fair bit of feedback of oh this was an easy build even on the relatively complicated builds one of my other orders of business for today is to make a big batch of chili i've been wanting some and today is today is the once a week grocery day so i went and got the ingredients and i'm looking forward to that i'll probably freeze some of it you know because with just one person i can't really eat a whole big pot of chili before it it will go bad if its just in the fridge i don't really have a chili recipe although my i have some things that i usually do and some i don't i like to put ground turkey and and although not only that the thing is the ground turkey has a texture i really like but it doesn't have a lot of flavor so i usually want to combine that with something else for flavor okay that's ten boards soldered and washed i'm going to press out the this paintbrush because its been modified with a short bristles and so on its not really good for much else besides what i'm doing with it so do i have boos for dram and cam we might be overdue for that yeah i do i i actually have a fair bit of booze right now but to be honest i'm expecting to get through a fair bit of it during the christmas holiday so i might even have to replenish at some point but if you catch me this week i'm probably good for booze and and i bought some store bought eggnog recently too okay so now i'll show you what i do and as i say this may actually be against some sort of environmental regulation regarding disposal of industrial waste but i've got this murky iso propyl alcohol in here and i am going to kind of spindle this paper towel and there's a fair bit of it in there so i'm probably going to also grab a second paper towel from this almost empty wall and i'm going to put this in here so it'll soak up the soak up the alcohol and the idea is both this provides more surface area for evaporation and also it means that the rosin that's in there which doesn't evaporate will get pulled up into the towels so that then when i let this evaporate i'm going to put it right in in next to the and so that it'll be drawing the vapor outdoors and yeah i got some of that when i visited you at christmas a few years ago but your homemade eggnog is good too if i were going to do homemade eggnog i think i would use the recipe from how to drink who is actually one of my hosted channels here on the twitch although he doesn't do drink recipes on twitch i don't think he actually does gaming that's on the on his youtube channel he had a recipe for eggnog that looked fun although it requires you know like using a blender and stuff which i'm not equipped to do so for this year anyway i think i will be sticking to the sticking to the store-bought one and yeah and so i am just going to saturate this and then i will put it up there by the fan the i'm guessing that if i get in trouble for running an electronics factory in a residential area evaporation visor propyl alcohol is not the first thing that they will get me for so there we go that is an installation of dip sockets in coilovers and i don't have a whole lot else to to say today i will probably unless there's anything that any of you really want to say you don't like the whites in your nog i found an even better recipe to share next time okay well then you might not like the how to drink recipe because he uses both the whites and the yolks separately its like its a fairly complicated recipe but it looks like it was pretty good it involves a fair bit of like it was going to have a light consistency because he whips the whites and then has other stuff that gets folded in but after careful experiment i do have a pretty good idea of what kind of boost i want to put in my nog so there we go anyway i want to get onto making my making my chili and also probably wash this rosin off my hands so i think that i'm going to just put up the filler animation for a minute or two and then end the stream and you know we can catch up in other ways on another stream or a cam and drama or whatever so good night or good afternoon and here we go i i